A Conversation with D.V. Sadero by Gavin Atlas

Sadero was born and raised in Los Angeles, went north to Cal Berkeley and never
looked back. He has been living in San Francisco for a number of years. 
Sadero  is the author of Revolt
of the Naked
, originally released by BadBoy Books and now again in
paperback.  He is also the author of In The Alley.  D.V. has
worked as a lifeguard as well as a private investigator.  He has said a
lot of his fiction comes from asking half-drunk men in bars about the weirdest
sex they’ve ever had.

D.V.  I don’t have any vodka to ply you with, but without incriminating
yourself, could you either tell us about the weirdest sex you’ve ever had or,
so as not to put you on the spot, tell us some of the weirder things the guys
from the bars described?  

weirdest sex I ever had was when I picked up a guy up in a San Francisco
Tenderloin bar because he looked so out of place there. He was about 30, nice
waspy features, and came on like a well bred graduate of like Harvard or
Princeton, in his button-down shirt and Dockers. What did he come to this dump
for? Something heavy-duty, I figured. Well, curiosity, often enough, is the
beginning of a turn-on. 

chatted him up, and he, giving me no idea of what he was into, suggested we go
to his room. Much to my surprise the guy led me to one of the many crummy
hotels in the area. I’d been expecting us to end up at one of the nice ones a
few blocks in the other direction. 

his depressing room I saw no equipment or clothing to indicate just what his
interests might be. 

proceeded kind of the usual. I’d made it clear I was going to do the fucking,
and he was happy with that. So there I was, between his legs and holding his
arms down on the mattress, which he liked. As I moved back and forth he
began talking, obsessively and without stopping. In a short while his words
made me realize that he was deep into a fantasy of being fucked by Richard
Nixon. The guy encouraged me to fuck him harder, harder. I did, being in a real
hurry to pop and split. 

Guess I
don’t need to mention that I had (and have) zero resemblance to that then
ex-president.  So… that’s the weirdest sex I’ve ever had, and about the
least fulfilling. 

Sadero is a pseudonym.  Where did the name come from?  What does D.V.
stand for?  

Spanish word, name of a street in San Francisco, Divisadero. I like the
initials and that, to me, “Sadero” sounds vaguely sinister,
nonspecifically foreign. And it’s also a quiet little homage to a guy who lived
on that street for many years and was the greatest oral artist in the Bay Area.

you in general tell us how far off (or how close) television and mystery novel
representations of private investigators are from reality?   What kind of
situations did you actually wind up in would have made for a good book

private investigator experience was extremely limited. I worked off and on
for a one-man agency, got called in when he had cases involving gay men. He
felt that was “another world”. The cases mostly involved business
deals gone wrong, often along with relationships turning bad. Could get really
messy. TV and novels are necessarily a lot more dramatic. Much of my job
consisted of following, waiting around, making notes of who came/went, and
otherwise just picking up gossip by talking with guys in bars. Not exciting,
never dangerous. No guns, no crime figures, though I certainly observed and
recorded some really trashy, low-down behavior.  

the society you create in Revolt of the
, there are no women, and bottom men are basically naked slaves
treated with no small amount of disrespect.  Being the passive partner
seems to be the ultimate shame and something a father prays never happens to a
son.  There’s a scene where a “bad guy” gambles and, to his great shock
and horror, loses his ass despite using loaded dice.  He then gets fucked
for the first time which ruins his life forever since he’s now fair game to be
constantly gangbanged by one and all.   Where did these ideas come
from?  Do you have a theory about why many people find that dubious
consent or non-consent a huge turn-on instead of a nightmare? 

on the planet Talanta a lot of the men are straight but have only other men for
sex. Active is the masculine way, rough and crude are commonplace. So, to be a
bottom is not so good. This situation sets up the plot for certain characters
to learn some useful lessons about themselves as the story goes on, and for
certain points of view to get modified. And is real handy for some sweaty,
raunchy sex scenes I very much enjoyed writing. 

My own
theory: Well, my notions: First, virtually all gay men are raised in straight
society, and many, however wild and free and liberated as adults, carry some
sense of guilt for committing “forbidden” sex acts. They don’t feel so guilty
when they are forced (or “forced”) to submit to something they actually find
quite pleasurable. Second, since so many of us have such a wide range and
number of experiences, we explore a lot of fantasies, ours and others’.
Including ones that may be minor, lurking in the shadows. A man with no real
interest in submission-dominance might well give it a try now and again, when
he comes on a more interested partner. Third, some of us are just programmed
for sub-dom as an important factor in a sex life. A primal acting-out, I’d say,
quite powerful, but can’t make a guess as to its source in the mind.

and this won’t be a popular view, but I believe most gay men are by nature more
bottom than top. Which means that supply-and-demand can come into play. A
cock-hungry bottom will do what it takes to get fucked. Which could get heavy
in certain circumstances. “You want my oversized uncut, kid? Well, fer a start,
why don’t yew just get on yer knees and unbutton my 501s? An’ we’ll go from

How do
people treat you differently (if they do at all) when they learn you’ve written
fantasies as wild as those in Revolt of
the Naked

a friend will tell me he really liked this scene or was really put off by that
one. I smile and listen, because usually the friend is telling me more about
himself than about the book. Any insight I pick up might be useful when I write
my next fiction. 

seeing that used copies of Revolt,
which was a mass market paperback, were selling for $200 each, you decided to
issue a new edition.  What was your experience like with re-publishing the
work?  Do you have tips for other authors who might want to do the same?    

When I
first published Revolt of the Naked, it was a matter of typing up the
manuscript and sending it in. This experience was totally different, all so
computerized, quite new and sometimes confusing. But I’ve had more say in the
production this time around. For instance, I hated the cover on the original
paperback. It was a black-and-white, generic photo of a muscled young tough on
an ugly green background, nothing in it suggesting science fiction. This time a
friend of mine in Mexico City, a professional illustrator, did up an
appropriately weird interplanetary cover, showing a gorgeous young man with
strange eyes. 

My only
tip, and this is based on my experience alone, is to get it all done as fast as
reasonably possible. For various reasons I had several interruptions, one
running as long as two weeks, and picking up the threads every time was kind of

gay erotica have you enjoyed the most?   Overall, which authors or books
have had the greatest impact on you?

In gay
erotica: I like the Dirk
books, the I Want it All series. And Lars Eighner
(BMOC and Bayou Boy). Haven’t read much in the last few years,
probably all kinds of work I’d enjoy is out there.

the authors/books who’ve had the greatest impact on me are those who get
closest to the nitty-gritty: Balzac (especially his famous Vautrin character,
the gay, very macho master criminal and genius manipulator,) the early Robert
(Hall of Mirrors, Dog Soldiers), Nathanael
, Hubert
Selby, Jr.
, and the hardboiled/noir guys, Cain, Hammett, McCoy, et

elements do you think a story (or a sex scene) needs to have for it to be
successful at arousing the reader?  

I think
a sex scene has to have feelings going between (or among) the participants.
Feelings besides lust. If it’s just some bods slapping together, who cares? But
if one guy, for instance, hates the other, or wants to dominate/take
over/enslave the other, or adores/worships the other, or is inexperienced,
confused, a little afraid of what’s to come, and if the other is having his own
set of feelings for his sex partner, then you get real people having real

genres besides erotica do you enjoy writing? What do you see yourself working
on in the future?

I keep
a daily diary, have since age 15. Not sure why, but I can’t stop now. Hardly

writing: Considering some ideas for a sequel to Revolt, but we’ll see
how well the new edition sells. Have a lot of erotic short stories, published
and not, but I keep hearing that they don’t sell all that well these days. And,
um, on one level writing is w-o-r-k, and I do like to get paid. 

very much, D.V.!


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